The 9th Floor

What does leadership look like from the 9th Floor of the Beehive?

Hosted by Guyon Espiner

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The Reformer - Geoffrey Palmer

Episode 1
In The 9th Floor, a landmark new series for RNZ, Guyon Espiner talks to five former NZ Prime Ministers, starting with reforming lawmaker Sir Geoffrey Palmer, who became our 33rd PM in 1989.
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The Trader - Mike Moore

Episode 2
In part two of The 9th Floor, Guyon Espiner talks to Mike Moore about his short stint as Prime Minister in 1990, followed by his miraculous near-comeback in 1993.
Mike Moore.

The Negotiator - Jim Bolger

Episode 3
In part three of The 9th Floor, Guyon Espiner talks to Jim Bolger, who steered New Zealand through a turbulent seven years that saw more economic upheaval, a resetting of race relations and the arrival of MMP.
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The Challenger - Jenny Shipley

Episode 4
In part four, Guyon Espiner talks to Dame Jenny Shipley about being the first woman on the 9th Floor, plus coups and coalitions, welfare reform and Winston Peters. And, above all, her commitment to change.
Dame Jenny Shipley

The Commander - Helen Clark

Episode 5
In part five of The 9th Floor, Guyon Espiner talks to Helen Clark about her three terms in power as she sought to draw a line under Rogernomics, unleash new social reforms and rethink New Zealand's place in the world.
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The Book Launch

Bonus episode
In this final, bonus podcast, join Helen Clark, Jim Bolger, Dame Jenny Shipley and Sir Geoffrey Palmer in conversation with Tim Watkin and Guyon Espiner, as we launch the book of the series, The 9th Floor.
Long-serving Prime Ministers Helen Clark and Jim Bolger at the launch of The 9th Floor book